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Brannley Miller's avatar

Can you think of examples of ineffective subversion that confirm my suggestions? What makes it ineffective?

The first thing I think of is the recent trend in film to break the fourth wall with self-aware humor. The MCU is probably the biggest offender at the moment, with Star Wars coming in second.

When it first became a trend (around 2017 or so if I had to guess), it was a great device for subversion because everything up until that point had been taking itself too seriously, and people were starting to feel the fatigue.

Recently, I think this trope (yes, I believe self-aware humor is a trope now) has been overdone, and now it seems like nothing takes itself seriously. It seems like everyone is trying to get one over on you now with self-aware jokes that feel like a slap in the face to fans who are truly invested in the story.

I could ramble on, but this is the most apparent example I can think of.

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David Perlmutter's avatar

A lot of my fiction is based around subversion. Nobody expects a frail looking young lady to be super-powerful, an underweight puppy to possess great intelligence and the power of speech, a jittery teenager to be an interstellar peace officer, a rabbit to take anthropomorphic form, or a flaxen-haired toddler to really be a foul-mouthed adult cyborg. But those ladies are all mine...

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